What do you guys think about... [remade Commando]

[UberNat]

Few things partially come from the other topics, so sorry for 'stealing' those.

Anyways, would you enjoy if Commando was made as follows:

1. 100 HP

2. Current running speed increased by, say, 10%.
This is to help knife-commandos and to counter Leg It and Blasting Strike. Also Poison Blade would be more useful. Right now if guy realize he's being hit, Commando has little to no chances to land more hits with PB and w/o Elixir.

3. Stealth
Once activated, it gives you 100% invisibility (not like it is now that you see the Commando when being close to him). Burning, Keg and damage done do show Commando's location (like now, except bugged Keg).

Duration: 3, 5, 7, 9, 12 seconds
Refresh time: 15, 15, 13, 13, 10 seconds

4. Elixir
Works the same way like now, except the duration would be increased (this is, again, to help knife users and also to provide more builds to this class).

Duration: 5, 5, 6, 6, 7

5. Knives
More stable damage. No more 3-5s. Let's say 20-60 per hit.

6. Sniper rifles
Works like in the latest update but dmg would be increased by +5 to each of them.

6. Piercing Shot
Does not affect Sniper Rifles in any way but gives more damage to the Pistols.

Duration: 5, 5, 6, 6, 7
Damage: +1, +2, +3, +4, +5

7. Poison Blade
No idea on this but something definitely should be done with this skill. Should they add slow effect? HP drain effect? Block-enemy-skills effect? Whatever effect?

8. Mark Target
Does work so it doesn't mark Plane in the background when you're trying to mark the guy next to you. Initial exp increased: 10 -> 20 (on a side note, Gunners should gain 10 exp per each person who receives Shield).

9. Troop Trap
Same as now.

So, speaking generally, Commando would be more visible, deal less dmg with a rifle, more with pistols and the knife. Also would be running more in a group with Soldiers/Gunners.

Pros:
- less QQ, more pew pew
- less camping
- less annoying Commandos
- more teamplay
- Commando's class picture would really show main weapon of this class (the knife)

Cons:
- ????

I soo hope DICE will look into this topic If you guys implement any of those changes I won't want any money!!!!1

What do you think, Heroes? Sounds like massive fun?

[Micepudding]

your stealth idea is horrible, especailyl if you want peopel to camp less. why would i run into the middle of battle if i kneqw that even at max stealth i only had 12 seconds before everyone could see me. i'd rather go and hide on a cliff somerwhere where you wont notice me until i can snipe you

[BuzzWoll]

The commando is strong enough i think with this he would be overpowered!

I know this!!!! (Playin as commando, soldier and gunner)

[Obode]

Sounds like you just made this post to troll tbh...

[bousofa]

bad idea, the command is really good enough

[UberNat]

(07-10-2009 06:50 PM)Micepudding schreef:  your stealth idea is horrible, especailyl if you want peopel to camp less. why would i run into the middle of battle if i kneqw that even at max stealth i only had 12 seconds before everyone could see me. i'd rather go and hide on a cliff somerwhere where you wont notice me until i can snipe you

You miss the point. Commandos would be running more with the rest of people, Soldiers and Gunners, being visible half the time and fighting with knives and pistols. Rifles would deal overall less damage. Also if you are more visible then you are easier target if you want to camp.

(07-10-2009 06:53 PM)Obode schreef:  Sounds like you just made this post to troll tbh...

I can say the same about your post tbh. You sound just like the guy who will cry either way (if they implement those changes and if not).

[DorianGray]

I don't think the people here realized that you said PS wouldn't work with the sniper rifle, just pistols. Basically this guy wants to buff the pistol/knife commando, though the stealth idea is pretty terrible....not enough time to really do anything

[Micepudding]

i didnt miss the point at all. i wouldnt be running with people if i had 12 seconds at most before everyone could se me. i wouldnt even try to cap a flag if i knew that all of a sudden i'd be visible, and trying to fight off a gunner with either my knife or a pistol i'd be caming on the furthest point away from the fighting and usibn the stealth to run somewhere else if anyone noticed me there

[rklier]

Your willing is good, but as I can assure you are a commando that want only the benefits of changes ignoring the balance.

Commando is ok the way it is... Let the developers focus on new maps, new weapons, new stuff, instead of QQ discussion about "My class should be BUFFED cause Im Commando".

Thanks for your time, but this topic is 1/6548482212 trolls out there.

[UberNat]

Well, the Stealth's duration could be longer, 30 seconds or so. But the point is that you would use Stealth just before knifing time, and not sniping time Also more HP helps when 'teamplaying' with Soldiers and Gunners. Overall less crying that Commando are invisible, have first shot and can kill you in 1 second.

(07-10-2009 07:06 PM)rklier schreef:  Your willing is good, but as I can assure you are a commando that want only the benefits of changes ignoring the balance.

Commando is ok the way it is... Let the developers focus on new maps, new weapons, new stuff, instead of QQ discussion about "My class should be BUFFED cause Im Commando".

Thanks for your time, but this topic is 1/6548482212 trolls out there.

Sir, I didn't say buff my class. I just said 'how about we make him different so ppl won't cry so much?'.

What sounds unbalanced here?

[The Omega Man]

troll post, don't fall for it

[URSODEAD]

NO WAY!!!
IM A SNIPER BUT I DONT WANT THOSE THINGS...

[UberNat]

Gosh, I would prefer some arguments and not 'this is troll' fail-posts.

[Kinderegg]

I don't see how posting a perfectly legitimate thread on ones ideas about changing a class is considered trolling. Check your internet dictionairy again please.

I love your diea of remaking the commando, the PS pistol idea is top knotch, i love the idea!
Although the stealth could stay as it is and perhaps have 85hp not 100.

Overall it's a lovely idea!

[DorianGray]

(07-10-2009 07:13 PM)URSODEAD schreef:  NO WAY!!!
IM A SNIPER BUT I DONT WANT THOSE THINGS...

Probably because it nerfs the sniper and buffs the pistol/knife commando? Probably.
I find it hilarous how people even think they need PS....takes like 2 to 3 shots with very long sniper rifle to kill someone WITHOUT PS.

[ArmyDude229]

i see where mice is goin when he says they would camp more....sure the pistol might have more damage as well as the knife but with only 100 hp and a major weakness to the automatic weps due to their larger ammo clips, commandos would die anywhere close to the enemy. the knife couldn't help a situation where your enemy is yards away, and the ammo in your pistol will run out long before a soldier or gunner are out of ammo, allowing the soldiers and gunners easy kills. anyway i don't see how this could possibly overpower a commando. and the point of stealth is not that u get magically invisible to all. its that from a distance (wider as you get higher lvl) he is in camoflauge. i just don't see how this could help balance anything much sorry

[ArmyDude229]

reading what kinderegg said, i do see how some aspects could be a good idea and it is true u don't need PS for a rifle. mostly the stealth should stay the same in my eyes....baisically some good concept ideas that could use tweaking and some i'm not a big fan of

[Lichelek]

100hp for commas and even faster run speed? c'mon. they are the fastest now. if they want to knife. pop elixir... no thanks

[Kubikuroh]

Hmmm, I do like the idea that PB slows down your enemy....but that's about it

[UberNat]

You could still use the rifle but it would deal just like 70% of the actual Rifle+PS combo Still good but not overpowered.

And 100% Stealth with timer means you are invisible only half the time. I think we could try how it is in game with changes like this. It doesn't even sound like much of coding.

(07-10-2009 07:34 PM)Lichelek schreef:  100hp for commas and even faster run speed? c'mon. they are the fastest now. if they want to knife. pop elixir... no thanks

It just means knife users wouldn't be useless against BS-Soldiers or Leg it-Gunners. C'mon.

And sadly you can't use PB with Elixir in same time.