Gunner vs Soldier: Which has the edge?

[WorldBosh]

(19-06-2012 05:44 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Depends at the range.

At long ranges? The soldier wins. Until they find a wall for cover. You'll rarely get into a long ranged "battle" VS a soldier without nearby cover.
Close ranges? Unless the soldier gets a lucky crutch-blast, gunners have the edge.
Mid-range? It's a toss-up; goes to the better player. Until they pull out my Moon MG and pop FF .

[Broodjedoner]

(19-06-2012 05:44 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Depends at the range.
At long ranges? The soldier wins.
Close ranges? Unless the soldier gets a lucky crutch-blast, gunners have the edge.
Mid-range? It's a toss-up; goes to the better player.

This is the truth and how it's SUPPOSED to be. This is also why people should stop complaining about laserweapons or closerange MG, which by the way is just as strong, if not stronger than the laserweapon, when you compare both weapons in their optimal range. Having other soldiers that play 1, 2 or even 3 years that don't understand, gunners are supposed to be superior in closerange, baffles me. You simply don't want to fight a gunner in closerange as a soldier, because his MG keeps ticking, and you won't. You don't want to keep fighting a soldier in longrange, as a gunner, you'll get pistolled down. 4 out of 5 cases, this is how it is. In midrange, it depends more on individual skill and some luck (what abilities are available at that particular time, what buddy's you have close, what cover/escape options you have etc.). A good player will always convert luck into succes as much as possible

[WilliamIsBack]

The Hero Shield ability gives the Gunner more health, and Frenzy Fire is just great. Especially with pretty good accuracy. Leg It can close the distance which is very important for Gunners, the Keg can be used for a Kegzooka which makes an great advantage and Nade`s can be soaked up with IEG. They have Machine Guns who are very powerful, and mostly a great shotgun which can turn the tables in a fight.

Although, Soldier`s Combat Medicine is almost even as strong as the Hero Shield. It has Nade Spam which can take portion`s out of the health of Gunners, same as Burning Bullets which could cause a Post Mortem. Sixth Sense can be used for a surprise attack and Blasting Strike can blast Gunners away which is very important for Soldiers. Soldiers has a powerful and accurate SMG, while they also have the choice of a Shotgun.

At close range, the Gunner will easily beat off a Soldier.
At medium range, the person who uses the right abilities win.
At long range, the Soldier will easily beat a Gunner

[MasterCharles]

(23-06-2012 03:39 PM)fabrisius Wrote:  

(20-06-2012 06:12 AM)Ankylar Wrote:  

(20-06-2012 01:40 AM)Firstcommando Wrote:  Short and normal range the gunners wins.
At long range, all the gunner can do is run (lvl5) to the soldier en spam DF.

Overall, gunner is stronger.

I agree. Not to mention at long ranges, the gunner has rocket launcher to knock you into the air, keg to slow you down while he catches up to you with leg it and pirate pistol. People who can't see that gunners are a bit overpowered are just in denial and are biased towards the class. That...or they know it is OP but don't want to get nerfed..xD

Gunner isn't OP. Classes are equal. SoldierBS and gunner down, 2 snipershots and gunner down.
None of the classes is OP

Two for take down a gunner Snipershots? Only if:

• Both Headshot
• Pearcing Shot LV 5 Active
• Slow Rifle (2° highest damage after the nearly-useless-1ammoclip-tankbuster)
• Gunner doesn't activate Shield
  

If the gunner is moving with Leg it this is extremely hard (you need a lot of skill/luck). So only wounded/very-noobs/very-unfortunate gunners are taked down by 2 shots.

[xybolt]

i agree with WUUSTER, it's a matter of range. On SR, i win almost all time, on MR, sometimes because i have keg and leg it.

On LR, i have problems. But i can annoy the target by using my bazooka and in the meanwhile, i walk way out the shoot range.

[KoZonacK]

Soldier PRO.

[Striker595]

^You, my friend, are going to either get your sig edited by a mod or banned.


Here's what I say:

Close range-Gunner's got a decent edge

Mid range-Depends on player skill, who got the jump on the other, timing of ability cooldowns, etc.

Long range-Soldier should have no problem

[Hermanubis]

If the situation between a soldier and a gunner is in a 1v1 where they would have to stay in their respective ranges without distancing themselves or coming closer (by voluntarily walking forward or back) here how my prediction will go:
This is if both the gunner and the soldier are GOOD with no noob set up (no 4+BB/4+GS).

Long Range: Most likely the soldier as GS will probably force an IEG, cancelling the gunner's leg it so the pistol shots hit accurately + BB.

Midrange: This is really a toss-up but chances are like that the gunner will win if their keg connects. It really depends on who can hit more shots and perfectly time their abilities to get the most out of them. This range is about skill.

Short Range: Gunner for the most part.

[N13LS_TH3_B3ST]

indeed bs is the almost the only ability that can kill the gunner (in close range),but that means the soldier cant win without bs, wich means EA made it not fair er should be a way to win without bs in my opinium,but yeah game isnt fair,and the other abilitys of the soldier has a negative point like:fire bullets does almost no damage anymore because almost everyone got the fire proof pants from the claw,grenade spam can be blast away by othet soldiers or gunner use eat grenade,6th sence is good to know the people spot but does not help you to kill the enemy they can still kill you,the only remaining ability left that isnt sh1t for the soldier is blasting strike because it has no negative point,conclusion EA made the game not fair

[SenorSeal]

(12-01-2013 04:50 PM)N13LS_TH3_B3ST Wrote:  indeed bs is the almost the only ability that can kill the gunner (in close range),but that means the soldier cant win without bs, wich means EA made it not fair er should be a way to win without bs in my opinium,but yeah game isnt fair,and the other abilitys of the soldier has a negative point like:fire bullets does almost no damage anymore because almost everyone got the fire proof pants from the claw,grenade spam can be blast away by othet soldiers or gunner use eat grenade,6th sence is good to know the people spot but does not help you to kill the enemy they can still kill you,the only remaining ability left that isnt sh1t for the soldier is blasting strike because it has no negative point,conclusion EA made the game not fair

Soldier is a really powerful class in mid-ranges & BS is awesome.
There's no point in complaining "uhuhuhuh soldier can't win without BS" cause that's kinda wrong.

1000 fireproof pants are being eaten in like 3-4 hours of playing since there's a bug that's consuming tons of them when joining + every tick of BB takes one pant wich means that most players do not have any fireproof pants anymore...

Also you left out combat medicine in your "complaint"...it's the soldiers most important & useful ability. You can clear out PB aswell as BB applied to you, and / or any teammates being close enough. So "the only remaining ability left that isnt sh1t for the soldier is blasting strike because it has no negative point" is just totally wrong.

The soldier is not underpowered or a bad class...if you cannot handle it, play a different class or read through some guides.

[Hermanubis]

(12-01-2013 04:50 PM)N13LS_TH3_B3ST Wrote:  indeed bs is the almost the only ability that can kill the gunner (in close range),but that means the soldier cant win without bs, wich means EA made it not fair er should be a way to win without bs in my opinium,but yeah game isnt fair,and the other abilitys of the soldier has a negative point like:fire bullets does almost no damage anymore because almost everyone got the fire proof pants from the claw,grenade spam can be blast away by othet soldiers or gunner use eat grenade,6th sence is good to know the people spot but does not help you to kill the enemy they can still kill you,the only remaining ability left that isnt sh1t for the soldier is blasting strike because it has no negative point,conclusion EA made the game not fair

...the game is fair... then again.. what can you expect from a soldier whos k/d is negative, and has a really bad ELO...
I wonder if you even use your abilities and weapons properly.... i see lv5 GS, and lv4 BB, no BS, no SS.............. wut? that answers most of your troubles -_- you're complain about fireproof pants, and IEG.. yet you use the abilities that actually HELP the gunner GAIN a HUGE amount of health back and put you at a disadvantage.

[The1stMessiah]

A person who says 6S and GS need a buff. Wow. BB isn't good, but it's not meant to be this big flashy thing that lets you 1v1. It's for full planes and jeeps and for spraying into large crowds.

[Runescape_XENOS!]

(12-01-2013 01:46 AM)Striker595 Wrote:  Here's what I say:

Close range-Gunner's got a decent edge - as long as soldiers dont use BS ...

Mid range-Depends on player skill, who got the jump on the other, timing of ability cooldowns, etc.

Long range-Soldier should have no problem

But otherwise i agree with you .

[YouGotMeBaby]

Depends...

I agree with wuuster's first post if he's talking about 1v1's.

In a good team, you need variety. That's why even if i think gunner is stronger and more fun to play, i sometimes force myself to play soldier...

[EAsyFailsHard]

(13-01-2013 10:30 AM)YouGotMeBaby Wrote:  i sometimes force myself to play soldier...

ouch lol

[The_WUUSTER]

(13-01-2013 03:23 PM)EAsyFailsHard Wrote:  

(13-01-2013 10:30 AM)YouGotMeBaby Wrote:  i sometimes force myself to play soldier...

ouch lol

Actually that's kind of the case with me.

[main_gi]

Well, I think Gunners will overpower a soldier unless he uses BS in a tight area. And at long range, a good gunner can:

Use the RPG.
Dual shotgun the person, because LR shotguns can easily deal 41 damage a shot.

[Firstcommando]

Classes are totally not equal.

Commando ->
Grab some best soldiers and gunners in bfh, and 1 vs 1 against commando, the commando will win all.
Panzerhunter Piercing lvl 5, 1 shot and u will go in uber panic mode. And more shots and its over (can do with fast sniper).

Gunner ->
Put 1 on Eat Grenade.
5 on fenzy fire
5 on run
What can a soldier do? Nothing. Blasting strike? Lol.. Laser with FF5 will be used. Or rocket launcher to push soldier in the air, run to him and spray..

Soldier ->
Has nice long range weapons and really needs blastingstrike to create long range.
Blastingstrike lvl 5 is useful.
But thats it.
Bombs are not really useful when we gunners eat it like sandwich.. xD

[TORTELINI-OWNER]

it's hard to say...
soldiers have nice abileties like healing blasting strike
gunners with their big guns and the will win with explosiv keg and frenzy fire
so if a soldier on long range it's likely he win but in short range a gunner wins most of te times

[main_gi]

In close range, the Soldier will win with Blasting Strike...

Worst Gunner: Mustangtogunner uses the Long-range machinegun at point blank, even though the close range one is finished loading.
Lesser Worst Gunner: Using the Long Range shotgun without another one at point blank.
Lesser Best Gunner: Using the Short-range Shotgun or Short-range Machinegun at point blank.
Best Gunner: A gunner uses the alternative fire for the laser at point blank.