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26-04-2011, 03:01 AM | Post: #1
MadBernieSkills 
There are lots of you who do not understand what ELO means or how it is calculated. I have explained in the past, but I'll do it again here. Then I'll take it one step further. I am going to tell you the hidden formula that is used to calculate your ELO. I'll describe how ELO is calculated specifically for BFH.

ELO (from WIKI) - The Elo rating system is a method for calculating the relative skill levels of players in two-player games
ELO looks at 1v1 battles between 2 opponents per match. It then follows a formula to calculate how many points one player gains, and one player loses based on the 1v1 matchup. It is a zero-sum game, meaning, if player A gains 10 points, then player B loses 10 points (not always true in BFH). By definition, average ELO is 1000. That is what everyone starts with.
Without getting too heavy into math, basically, if your ELO is higher than your opponents and you beat them, you gain a few points. Conversly, if a lower ELO rated player beats a higher level ELO player, then he will gain more points.
After each kill and death, your ELO is updated. It does not wait until the end of the match.
Now here is what makes BFH different than any other ELO scoring system. Once you reach level 16, your gain or loss is cut in half. For example, if a level 10 beats a level 17 and gains 10 points, the level 17 will lose 5 points. The converse is also true.

I've included a chart that shows what the gain and loss would be depending on how the fight went. This chart is not 100% accurate, but it is very close. The exact cut-offs are still not 100% correct. Getting it perfect is a waste of time though.

I would like to thank Iad.Uroboros for putting in a lot of work in this effort.

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Here is an example:

Let's say you are a level 20, with an ELO of 1200. You kill an enemy who is level 14 with an ELO of 1000.
So if you look at the chart, subtract your opponent's ELO from yours. You get 1200-1000 = 200.
Since you won the fight, and you are level 20, you will gain 4 ELO . Your opponent will lose 8 points since he is level 15 or less.

Here is a second example:

Let's say you are level 10 with an ELO of 1100. You lose to a level 12 with an ELO of 1200.
Look at the chart, subtract your opponent's ELO from yours. You get 1100-1200 = -100.
You lost the fight and are less than level 16, so you will lose 12 points. Your opponent will gain 12 points.

That is it, that is ELO. Good luck on the battlefield.

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(This post was last modified: 28-06-2011 12:24 PM by MadBernieSkills.)
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26-04-2011, 03:39 AM | Post: #2
glan56 
Cool... I never knew what is was untill now, Thanks Smile

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26-04-2011, 03:40 AM | Post: #3
ffdfdfd 
I'm pretty sure this has been posted a bunch of times already.

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26-04-2011, 03:47 AM | Post: #4
padamlulek 
Thanks, this helped clear things up. =D

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26-04-2011, 03:48 AM | Post: #5
[gg]ENERGY 
i didnt feel like reading that much maybe a video would help!

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26-04-2011, 04:03 AM | Post: #6
mbmaster99 
totally posting this in topics that ask about elo

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26-04-2011, 04:12 AM | Post: #7
RooeydaAwsum 
interesting...

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26-04-2011, 04:13 AM | Post: #8
vovia 
That kinda helped...But i kinda understand Elo a different way.

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26-04-2011, 04:52 AM | Post: #9
IAmDabangg 
thanks man Smile and Madbernie and Vovie your sig's are huge ^^^^

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26-04-2011, 06:14 AM | Post: #10
simple.man 
now i know what it is thanks Wink

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26-04-2011, 06:47 AM | Post: #11
DrZombiie 
(26-04-2011 03:40 AM)ffdfdfd Wrote:  I'm pretty sure this has been posted a bunch of times already.

Agreed this post should be closed.

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26-04-2011, 07:15 AM | Post: #12
Iad.Uroboros 
Why you noobs want to close it? This is an appeal for help nailing the formula, where experimentation by lots of players is required. Probably didn't bother reading the OP or you'd know that.

(26-04-2011 03:48 AM)Captain_RedBerry Wrote:  i didnt feel like reading that much maybe a video would help!

Do you also go to McDonald's when you're not hungry? GTFO of a forum if you CBA to read.

Bernie, I will report several scenarios tomorrow. Check your PMs before then.

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26-04-2011, 08:20 AM | Post: #13
HC.Gracious 
Thanks for making this. So now we can give a link to this thread to other players, so they would understand this aswell.

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26-04-2011, 08:43 AM | Post: #14
DutchForcer 
I can help with your experiment. I don't play that much so a 24h stop wouldn't hurt me at all Smile Current ELO is 1293

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26-04-2011, 08:44 AM | Post: #15
Terrile 
THANK YOU.
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26-04-2011, 10:20 AM | Post: #16
DaveDaDon 
i know that in the past someone even posted a formula to calculate the ELO ... so nothing new

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26-04-2011, 10:27 AM | Post: #17
Jungl3 
Shouldn't some one from EA to explain this system to us ? It is a pretty important part of the game really

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26-04-2011, 11:26 AM | Post: #18
MadBernieSkills 
(26-04-2011 10:20 AM)DaveDaDon Wrote:  i know that in the past someone even posted a formula to calculate the ELO ... so nothing new

There is a basic formula that is used as a reference. It doesn't have to be followed exactly. When I played UT, I had my ELO over 2300. I've never broken 1500 in this game. The formula is different for the 2 games.

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26-04-2011, 02:37 PM | Post: #19
Iad.Uroboros 
Just wanted to remind anyone who may be helping out;
if you are being attacked by someone who doesn't know/care about your testing,
just alt-f4 before they can kill you, and that way you don't have to wait 24 hours to try another test.

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26-04-2011, 03:01 PM | Post: #20
Cortex_Gunner 
Thanks for that. But you could just say.. play now = higher ELO noobbashing = low ELO Tongue

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