PTE

[M1k3ol]

yup, MG buff

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I wonder why nobody noticed

[Boombaastical]

(11-10-2009 11:58 PM)M1k3ol Wrote:  yup, MG buff

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I wonder why nobody noticed

I believe these are already implemented IG now.

[Ademo]

(11-10-2009 11:58 PM)M1k3ol Wrote:  yup, MG buff

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I wonder why nobody noticed

Love it. Hopefully Gunners will be feared after this.

[Devasator]

(12-10-2009 12:38 AM)Ademo Wrote:  

(11-10-2009 11:58 PM)M1k3ol Wrote:  yup, MG buff

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I wonder why nobody noticed

Love it. Hopefully Gunners will be feared after this.

Gunners will be feared when the sniper nerf comes out O.O

[golf1052]

changing the rifles so that commandos have to sit at the edge of the map to get kills...hmmmm...sounds good but they would need to fix some other stuff.
1. at super low detail (which i play at) you cannot see very far so sniping from far distances is out of the quesion.

2. the sniper crosshairs are not fine enough to see people when you are really far away. that makes it almost impossible to snipe somebody if you are far away.

but i like the idea of having to stand really far away to kill somebody. it makes me harder to find

[Ademo]

(12-10-2009 12:40 AM)Devasator Wrote:  

(12-10-2009 12:38 AM)Ademo Wrote:  

(11-10-2009 11:58 PM)M1k3ol Wrote:  yup, MG buff

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I wonder why nobody noticed

Love it. Hopefully Gunners will be feared after this.

Gunners will be feared when the sniper nerf comes out O.O

Yes, because the default MG will be awesome!!

[Armadillo]

People don't fear us now?, I feel sad .

[Ademo]

(12-10-2009 01:35 AM)Armadillo Wrote:  People don't fear us now?, I feel sad .

They fear you but not the average Gunner, or maybe that's just me.. :/
LR MG is just too slow in close mid-range.

[Boombaastical]

People, I believe these changes are already implemented concerning MGs, just take a look at their damage and notice that it strangely resembles what M1k3ol posted on the PTE forums.

[M1k3ol]

check back again, see the in-game code for current MG and compare to PTE files...

MGs GOT a buff...

check CURRENT MGs

http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...487&page=1

now check PTE MGs

http://pte.battlefieldheroes.com/forum/s...638&page=1

I'm not posting what "I think" or "what I see", I'm posting what IT IS on in-game files...this is the second MG buff, of course it resembles what it is on game here, except that they deliver from 2 to 4 more of damage per bullet on PTE...

[Dr. Rabbit]

So now the Cheeser/Backscratcher won't be useless anymore?

[M1k3ol]

(12-10-2009 01:52 AM)Boombaastical Wrote:  People, I believe these changes are already implemented concerning MGs

you know, there's something fishy going around here...since PTE went live...

I've been checking some friends videos, and some personal use too, and the common damage from the MGs are starting to show differently on the live game, but with no updates to the files at all!

the more I'm checking the weirder it gets...I think theres a mistake by DICE with in-game files on the server itself, so, it might be canceling our files damage, since server defaults might be different...this is just a thought, since rifles are not behaving differently in the live game yet...so, it can't be a file issue...on our side

thats one theory, the other one is, PTE is not showing the full version number like it always did, now it shows 0.00.1099.0, which is weird...maybe PTE files -might- be interfering with main game files?, maybe they found a way to make some files go live "silently" like clothes?

I don't have yet the answer, but this seems to be a dev mistake...

to sum it up...no, my numbers are not wrong, it's part of the game code, but yes, there seems to be an error around, but I can assure you is not on my (or any of you) side...

oh, and this was not showing 'till PTE went live, so, pretty sure there's a mistake around here...

[Elmohead]

"- Increase plane MG range
- Increase splash damage range for plane MG
- Added critical hit splash damage for plane MG"

I like this.

[Boombaastical]

(12-10-2009 07:29 AM)M1k3ol Wrote:  you know, there's something fishy going around here...since PTE went live...

I've been checking some friends videos, and some personal use too, and the common damage from the MGs are starting to show differently on the live game, but with no updates to the files at all!

the more I'm checking the weirder it gets...I think theres a mistake by DICE with in-game files on the server itself, so, it might be canceling our files damage, since server defaults might be different...this is just a thought, since rifles are not behaving differently in the live game yet...so, it can't be a file issue...on our side

thats one theory, the other one is, PTE is not showing the full version number like it always did, now it shows 0.00.1099.0, which is weird...maybe PTE files -might- be interfering with main game files?, maybe they found a way to make some files go live "silently" like clothes?

I don't have yet the answer, but this seems to be a dev mistake...

to sum it up...no, my numbers are not wrong, it's part of the game code, but yes, there seems to be an error around, but I can assure you is not on my (or any of you) side...

oh, and this was not showing 'till PTE went live, so, pretty sure there's a mistake around here...

I don't think you mischecked the files, all I'm saying is that the damage I'm getting seems to correspond to what you posted on the PTE, and I know that I don't have any proof, or maybe I can just make a vid of that. Having the fast MG hitting for no less than 5 at short distance made me think of your values.

[Funk001]

Increase gunner this, increase commando that.... And us soldier are kept in the dark once againce

[HATE]

You know you could see this as 'Soldiers are so awesome they don't need as much attention as their counter-parts'

Though the LR SMG does need some lovin'.

Also consider that changes in PTE can be changed before transition to live game - just need feedback before we can do anything.

We are also working on those annoying issues that are messing up Hero Point and the PunkBuster issues.....so if you get a chance please hop in to check out the fixes and changes and provide feedback.

[Trekkman]

(12-10-2009 01:05 PM)HATE Wrote:  You know you could see this as 'Soldiers are so awesome they don't need as much attention as their counter-parts'

Though the LR SMG does need some lovin'.

Also consider that changes in PTE can be changed before transition to live game - just need feedback before we can do anything.

We are also working on those annoying issues that are messing up Hero Point and the PunkBuster issues.....so if you get a chance please hop in to check out the fixes and changes and provide feedback.

What about the LR shotgun?


About medium range MG vs long range MG:
Why should anyone use the long range MG over medium range MG? The damage from MR MG is superior on every range now (medium and long distance). I don't think the higher accuracy (1.3 vs 1.4) makes up for 25% less dmg.

[Tomtailor]

(12-10-2009 01:05 PM)HATE Wrote:  You know you could see this as 'Soldiers are so awesome they don't need as much attention as their counter-parts'

its true imho.. GS & BS are so boom now that there is no need for extra love atm

[Boombaastical]

(12-10-2009 01:21 PM)Trekkman Wrote:  

(12-10-2009 01:05 PM)HATE Wrote:  You know you could see this as 'Soldiers are so awesome they don't need as much attention as their counter-parts'

Though the LR SMG does need some lovin'.

Also consider that changes in PTE can be changed before transition to live game - just need feedback before we can do anything.

We are also working on those annoying issues that are messing up Hero Point and the PunkBuster issues.....so if you get a chance please hop in to check out the fixes and changes and provide feedback.

What about the LR shotgun?


About medium range MG vs long range MG:
Why should anyone use the long range MG over medium range MG? The damage from MR MG is superior on every range now (medium and long distance). I don't think the higher accuracy (1.3 vs 1.4) makes up for 25% less dmg.

Hah, found out a funny thing sir: it seems that the LRMG deals more damage at medium range than the MRMG, long range seems like it's the same. I took M1k3ol's values:
MRMG:

• Short range: 102.4 DpS
• Medium range: 62.4 DpS
• Long range: 52.4 DpS

LRMG:

• Short range: 39.3 DpS
• Medium range: 84.3 DpS
• Long range: 54.3 DpS

Agreed on the LRSG

[Trekkman]

(12-10-2009 02:28 PM)Boombaastical Wrote:  Hah, found out a funny thing sir: it seems that the LRMG deals more damage at medium range than the MRMG, long range seems like it's the same. I took M1k3ol's values:
MRMG:

• Short range: 102.4 DpS
• Medium range: 62.4 DpS
• Long range: 52.4 DpS

LRMG:

• Short range: 39.3 DpS
• Medium range: 84.3 DpS
• Long range: 54.3 DpS

Agreed on the LRSG

What are you calculating there?

Short range MG (PTE)
- rate of fire 900 RPM = 15 RPS
- damage short range 5-13
- damage medium range 3-9
- damage long range 3-9
- min deviation 1.6

Medium range MG (PTE):
- rate of fire 600 RPM = 10 RPS
- damage short range 4-8
- damage medium range 7-15
- damage long range 3-14
- min deviation 1.4

Long range MG (PTE):
- rate of fire 450 RPM = 7.5 RPS
- damage short range 3-7
- damage medium range 7-15
- damage long range 5-14
- min deviation 1.3


average DPS = (min damage + max damage)/2*RPM/60

Short range MG: min DPS, max DPS (average DPS)
- DPS short range 75-195 (135)
- DPS medium range 45-135 (90)
- DPS long range 45-135 (90)

Medium range MG
- DPS short range 40-80 (60)
- DPS medium range 70-150 (110)
- DPS long range 30-140 (85)

Long range MG
- DPS short range 22.5-52.5 (37.5)
- DPS medium range 52.5-112.5 (82.5)
- DPS long range 37.5-105 (71.25)


(Just added SR MG to get complete data.)